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Just a question that has always had me puzzled.
On lever quarter turn deck mixers, - why do the majority of them come from the factory with the cartridges having the lever handles requiring you pull them forward (into the sink) to turn them off?
I always remove and reverse the hot and cold cartridges with agreement of customers to make the lever taps turn off to the left and right, same as hospital taps, with a push away from me.
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#5087
REDSAW wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 12:58 pm
its so they fit into corner sinks better and helps the blind.
I never knew or had thought of that!
Still prefer them fitted the other way though.
I guess it is the way the cartridges are made for all mixers - red seal hot cartridge opens clockwise, which is proper way for vertical handles, but seems wrong on horizontal handles
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By REDSAW
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Best wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 4:42 pm
REDSAW wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 12:58 pm
its so they fit into corner sinks better and helps the blind.
I never knew or had thought of that!
Still prefer them fitted the other way though.
I guess it is the way the cartridges are made for all mixers - red seal hot cartridge opens clockwise, which is proper way for vertical handles, but seems wrong on horizontal handles
you ever put a cold one on the hot because thats the only one in the van? :lol:
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REDSAW wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 10:58 pm

you ever put a cold one on the hot because thats the only one in the van? :lol:
Yes!!!! I sometimes would do anything to please a customer and get away home.
I did replace a Franke cartridge with the wrong side because I had none left and the customers said they got used to the handle going backwards for a year. :lol:
I finally replaced it to correct one when doing other jobs, as they now rent the house out to tenants
I have fixed a few cartridges out of desperation using a heavy O ring to stop dripping taps.
I bought a lot of ceramic disc cartridges from Screwfix as they are only approx £6 a pair and they do match a lot of taps
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By REDSAW
#5093
Best wrote:
September 9th, 2018, 1:44 pm
REDSAW wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 10:58 pm

you ever put a cold one on the hot because thats the only one in the van? :lol:
Yes!!!! I sometimes would do anything to please a customer and get away home.
I did replace a Franke cartridge with the wrong side because I had none left and the customers said they got used to the handle going backwards for a year. :lol:
I finally replaced it to correct one when doing other jobs, as they now rent the house out to tenants
I have fixed a few cartridges out of desperation using a heavy O ring to stop dripping taps.
I bought a lot of ceramic disc cartridges from Screwfix as they are only approx £6 a pair and they do match a lot of taps
thanks for the tip £6 screwfix-
double that at my merchants, although they do stock 100's of types. :D
and you cant beat the o ring lol. i really wants to know which bit causes the drip.
my uncle says he has changed ''the seals'' and thats worked- wont tell me any more though !!!!
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#5100
REDSAW wrote:
September 9th, 2018, 10:42 pm
REDSAW wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 10:58 pm

you ever put a cold one on the hot because thats the only one in the van? :lol:

thanks for the tip £6 screwfix-
double that at my merchants, although they do stock 100's of types. :D
and you cant beat the o ring lol. i really wants to know which bit causes the drip.
my uncle says he has changed ''the seals'' and thats worked- wont tell me any more though !!!!
I think the ceramic works pass water if the rubber seals lose their elasticity or perish - like with the white seal washers.
As you no doubt know, some of the works have a brass washer which holds an O ring which can perish a little.
I notice on mains cold/gravity hot kitchen mixers, that the cold usually is the works that leak first. I assume that could be due to the higher pressure, rather than a microscopic piece of grit in the mains water.
There is at least one Franke sink kitchen mixer that the SF works matches. I discovered that by reading SF reviews on their ceramic works that one Franke tap they matched and it turned out to be correct.
Also fit many other taps
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By YorkshireDave
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REDSAW wrote:
September 9th, 2018, 10:42 pm
Best wrote:
September 9th, 2018, 1:44 pm
REDSAW wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 10:58 pm

you ever put a cold one on the hot because thats the only one in the van? :lol:
i really wants to know which bit causes the drip.
my uncle says he has changed ''the seals'' and thats worked- wont tell me any more though !!!!
Ceramic disc taps 'seal' due to the flatness of the two ceramic discs. Their flaness is actually measured using individual photons of light - that's chuffin flat! The dripping starts when there is no longer a seal between the two plates. This has three causes: 1 - debris in the water getting caught between the plates and cutting a slight grove (just microns deep) 2 - limescale build up on the edges of the discs causing one edge to lift (again just microns) and lastly 3 - just simple face wear.

The end silicone seal is designed so that it only places a finite pressure on the discs. Too much causes them to crack or wear extremely quickly so once they wear a gap appears between them (microns) and they drip. In the last case the typical symptom is 'chattering' when another valve is opened on the same line...

Taps are my thang... :? 8-)
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#5751
Still has to be a problem with the compression in some ceramic tap works.
I notice most mixers I come across that are dripping will stop when I push against the tap handle on the faulty side.
Definitely replacing the seal with something (even sometimes a O ring) or replacing the internal O ring can stop the drip.
It would make sense if the works had a rustless spring to ensure the works remained tight sealed
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